The Definitive Guide to Air France U.S. Routes [Plane Types & Seats]

Air France, the flag carrier of France, has some very intriguing products from an aviation perspective — and there’s no question that it’s one of the top ways to fly to Europe.

It has a huge route network due to the massive tourist appeal that France offers to America, and the market is very strong in this space since these 2 countries aren’t all that far apart.

There are quite a few options here, so let’s get started! We’ll talk about La Première, the different business class products offered by Air France, and the preferred economy seats to take when you fly with them.

Air France Seat Options by Aircraft Type

Air France’s plane selection is a mess. It operates at least 6 different aircraft on flights to the U.S., and aircraft swaps are common, especially on non-flagship routes (such as between Chicago and Paris) — just keep that in mind for when we do our analysis and ranking of seats and planes.

Here are the aircraft summarized in the table below:

777-300ER (4-class)
777-200ER (3-class)
787-9 (3-class)
A350-900 (3-class)

Additionally, these aircraft can have different seat maps, so be on the lookout for this. Usually, the configuration and seat sizes are the same — but the number of seats offered in a particular cabin could vary a lot.

Air France Routes	Flight No.	Aircraft	Cabin Classes	Frequency
Atlanta (ATL) – Paris (CDG)	AF 681/689	A350-900	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	2x daily
Boston (BOS) – Paris (CDG)	AF 321/333	A350-900	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Up to 2x daily
Chicago (ORD) – Paris (CDG)	AF 153	787-9	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Daily
Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) – Paris (CDG)	AF 159	787-9	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	5x weekly
Denver (DEN) – Paris (CDG)	AF 631	787-9	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	3x weekly
Detroit (DTW) – Paris (CDG)	AF 377	787-9	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Irregular (5x weekly to daily)
Houston (IAH) – Paris (CDG)	AF 639	777-300ER	La Première, Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Daily
Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG)	AF 65/69	AF 65/69: 777-300ER	La Première, Business, Premium Economy, Economy	2x daily
Miami (MIA) – Paris (CDG)	AF 99	A350-900	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Daily
Minneapolis (MSP) – Paris (CDG)	AF 673	777-200ER	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	5x weekly
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG)	AF 7/9/11/15/17/23	AF 7/11/23: 777-300ER AF 9/15/17: 777-200ER	777-300ER: La Première, Business, Premium Economy, Economy 777-200ER: Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Up to 6x daily
Pape’ete (PPT) – Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG)	AF 77	777-200ER	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	3 to 5x weekly
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG)	AF 83/85	AF 83: 777-300ER AF 85: 777-200ER	777-300ER: La Première, Business, Premium Economy, Economy 777-200ER: Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Up to 2x daily
Seattle (SEA) – Paris (CDG)	AF 355/367	A350-900	Business, Premium Economy, Economy	5 to 7x weekly
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG)	AF 27/55	AF 27: A350-900 AF 55: 777-300ER	777-300ER: La Première, Business, Premium Economy, Economy A350-900: Business, Premium Economy, Economy	Daily

This analysis might get a bit convoluted and confusing just because of the number of aircraft we’re analyzing — but hang in there! This information is extremely useful, and you don’t want to be sorely disappointed if your seat isn’t what you were expecting.

Best Points To Earn To Fly Air France

As a SkyTeam partner, Air France can be booked with Delta SkyMiles, Korean Air SKYPASS miles, and of course its own mileage system, known as Flying Blue.

For the most part, you’ll find that the best value is using Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles.

If planned properly, you can get business class flights one-way from America to Europe for only 53,000 Flying Blue miles!

Additionally, Flying Blue is a transfer partner with all the major transferable currencies: American Express transfer partners, Brex Rewards, Capital One Miles, Chase Ultimate Rewards, Citi ThankYou Rewards, and Marriott Bonvoy.

Using Delta SkyMiles is probably the second-best option since there’s a ton of different ways to earn Delta SkyMiles as well!

Let’s get started.

Air France La Première Options

Air France La Premiere B777 300 lie flat — Lie-flat La Première seats aboard Air France’s 777-300ER. Image Credit: Air France

La Première on Air France is somewhat of a unicorn in the points world — it’s very difficult to book as you’re required to be a Flying Blue elite member (Silver, at minimum). In addition to this requirement, you need to pay 200,000 Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles one-way for flights from the U.S. to France!

There are many great ways to redeem Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles — and this isn’t one of them. This price is simply unattainable for most travelers, and the elite status requirement doesn’t make it any easier to book.

Hot Tip: Want to earn more Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles? Check out our guide on the best ways to earn lots of Flying Blue miles.

Still, if you’re thinking about flying on La Première, it’s very useful to know that it’s only offered on 1 aircraft:

777-300ER (4-class)

Air France 777-300ER (4-Class) La Première First Class

La Première on the 777-300ER is a single row of 4 seats in a 1-2-1 configuration featuring private curtains, beautiful French design, tons of storage, and more space.

On SeatGuru, the 777 La Première seat dimensions are incorrect, as the seat width says 24 inches. But in reality, the 777-300ER’s La Première seats measure 35 inches wide, 81 inches for pitch, and 79 inches of bed length.

Let’s look at the 777-300ER’s seat map:

Air France 777-300ER 4 Class La Premiere Seat Map — Air France 777-300ER 4-class La Première seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

Pretty simple, right?

Here are the routes on which it’s offered:

Houston (IAH) – Paris (CDG)
Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 65 and 69
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 7, 11, and 23
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 83
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 55

Bottom Line: Air France’s La Première first class product can only be found on the 777-300ER, making it one of the most luxurious first class products in the sky! This product can be booked exclusively on Air France’s flagship routes.

Air France Business Class Options

Air France's new Boeing 777-300 business class cabins — Access Air France’s best seats in business class on most 777s. Image Credit: Air France

Let’s talk about business class options on Air France, which are plentiful.

The bottom line is there are many different business class products — but the best ones are on the 4-class 777-300ER and 3-class 777-200ER aircraft.

In the past, Air France had clear winners and losers when it came to business class products. Namely, its A380, A330, and A340 didn’t have direct aisle access and were sometimes not even lie-flat.

Luckily, this has been alleviated since Air France decided to load its U.S. routes with solid aircraft. Here is a table summarizing the key differences between the 4 available products.

Aircraft	Seat Width	Seat Pitch	Bed Length	Configuration	Number of Seats
777-200ER (3-class)	21.5″	61″	77″	1-2-1 (lie-flat)	40
777-300ER (4-class)	21.5″	61″	77″	1-2-1 (lie-flat)	58
787-9 (3-class)	21″	42″	77″	1-2-1 (lie-flat)	30
A350-900 (3-class)	21″	74″	78″	1-2-1 (lie-flat)	34

The 777-200ER, 777-300ER (4-class), and 787-9 all have reverse herringbone business class seats, while the A350-900 has Safran Optima seats. Both designs are excellent!

Hot Tip: For more details, check out our complete guide to booking Air France business class with points.

Air France 777-200ER (3-Class) Business Class

We prefer the 777-200ER in business class because there are only 40 seats along 10 rows in a 1-2-1 configuration, as opposed to 58 seats in the 777-300ER 3-class variant.

Let’s look at the 777-200ER seat map:

Air France 777-200ER 3 Class Business Class Seat Map — Air France 777-200ER 3-class business class seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

As you can see, there are 2 mini-cabins. When flying on the 777-200ER in Air France business class, the best seats are in row 12: they’re the most private and experience the least foot traffic.

Find the “winning” Air France business class setup on the 777-200ER, which flies on these routes:

Minneapolis (MSP) – Paris (CDG) on AF 673
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 9, 15, and 17
Pape’ete (PPT) – Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 77
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 85

Air France 777-300ER (4-Class) Business Class

Moving over to the 777-300ER 4-class aircraft, your first choice should be seats in row 3, followed by row 20, due to their private nature. Nobody will be walking in your area, as the lavatories and galleys are located in the middle of the business class section.

These close “runner-up” Air France business class seats are on the 4-class 777-300ER, which you’ll find on:

Houston (IAH) – Paris (CDG)
Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 65 and 69
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 7, 11, and 23
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 83
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 55

Air France 787-9 Business Class

The 787-9 comes in third, with an identical reverse herringbone product with a slightly smaller seat and a smaller business class cabin.

Here’s the business class seat map aboard the 787-9:

Air France 787-9 business class seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

If you find yourself on the 787-9 in business class, row 7 seats are far enough from the rear galley to avoid disturbances while being far from the front galleys and lavatories.

Find the 787-9 aircraft operating on these routes:

Chicago (ORD) – Paris (CDG)
Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) – Paris (CDG)
Denver (DEN) – Paris (CDG)
Detroit (DTW) – Paris (CDG)

Air France A350-900 Business Class

Let’s move on to the A350-900. This seat uses a Safran Optima staggered, forward-facing seat that looks like this:

The seats are still fully lie-flat and in a 1-2-1 configuration, but these seats are arranged like this:

Air France A350-900 business class seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

These seats typically feel a bit less private due to the angles toward the aisles, although this is truly a matter of splitting hairs at this point. Nonetheless, we recommend window seats for solo travelers, which are even-numbered row A and L seats.

Honeymoon seats can be found on even-numbered row E and F seats. Here are the routes operated by Air France’s A350-900:

Atlanta (ATL) – Paris (CDG)
Boston (BOS) – Paris (CDG)
Miami (MIA) – Paris (CDG)
Seattle (SEA) – Paris (CDG)
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 27

Bottom Line: There are lots of discrepancies across different planes, but the good news is that you’ll have a quality business class seat regardless of which route you fly.

Air France Premium Economy Options

AirFrance Economy Premium B787 2 — Air France 787-9 premium economy. Image Credit: Air France

Let’s talk about premium economy! Our clear favorite plane is the 787-9. At a high level, the configuration is the least cramped, the seats are the largest, and the cabin is more intimate.

Let’s take a head-to-head look at each aircraft:

Aircraft	Seat Width	Seat Pitch	Configuration	Number of Seats
787-9	19″	40″	2-3-2	21
777-200ER	19″	38″	2-4-2	24
777-300ER (4-class)	19″	38″	2-4-2	28
A350-900	18.8″	37″	2-4-2	24

Air France 787-9 Premium Economy Class

Right off the bat, we notice that the seating configuration on the 787-9 is 2-3-2, which is a pleasant surprise. This means that these seats afford you more space!

Also, the 787-9 is tied for the widest seats and has the largest overall seat pitch (legroom).

Lastly, there are just 3 rows with 7 seats in each row as shown here:

Air France 787-9 premium economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

Another benefit is that there are no lavatories at the front of the premium economy cabin, which reduces foot traffic more. We love the bassinet/bulkhead seats at row 10, thanks to the extra legroom.

Here are Air France’s 787-9 routes to the U.S.:

Chicago (ORD) – Paris (CDG)
Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) – Paris (CDG)
Denver (DEN) – Paris (CDG)
Detroit (DTW) – Paris (CDG)

Hot Tip: The 787-9 is the only aircraft operating to the U.S. with a 2-3-2 configuration in premium economy. All other aircraft have denser layouts.

Air France 777-200ER (3-Class) Premium Economy Class

Now, we’ll get to seats with the denser configuration: 2-4-2. These seats are 19 inches wide and 38 inches in pitch.

The premium economy cabin on the 777-200ER consists of 24 seats in a 2-4-2 configuration:

Air France 777-200ER premium economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

The most spacious seats are in the bassinet/bulkhead, so pick row 19, if possible.

The 777-200ER is operated on these routes:

Minneapolis (MSP) – Paris (CDG) on AF 673
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 9, 15, and 17
Pape’ete (PPT) – Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 77
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 85

Air France 777-300ER (4-Class) Business Class

The next best premium economy product is on the 4-class 777-300ER. Oddly, this aircraft has the best first and business class products — but it falls lower in our list for premium economy rankings.

The seats are arranged in a 2-4-2 configuration, but the reason why they’re not ideal is that they’re so close to the lavatories.

Here’s what we mean:

Air France 777-300ER 4 Class Premium Economy Seat Map — Air France 777-300ER 4-class premium economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

The best premium economy seats on the 4-class 777-300ER would be in row 26, as it is the furthest away from the lavatories. Here are the route offerings for this aircraft:

Houston (IAH) – Paris (CDG)
Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 65 and 69
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 7, 11, and 23
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 83
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 55

Air France A350-900 Premium Economy Class

Our least favorite premium economy product is aboard the A350-900. This is simply because the seats are the smallest among the other options — 18.8 inches wide and just 37 inches in pitch.

The cabin is arranged in a 2-4-2 setup as follows:

Air France A350-900 premium economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

The bulkhead seats at row 10 may be the most spacious with extra legroom, but these are uncomfortably close to the lavatories and galleys.

So if you would like extra legroom, be prepared for galley and lavatory disturbances.

Find Air France’s A350-900 aircraft on the following nonstop routes to/from the U.S.:

Atlanta (ATL) – Paris (CDG)
Boston (BOS) – Paris (CDG)
Miami (MIA) – Paris (CDG)
Seattle (SEA) – Paris (CDG)
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 27

Air France Economy Options

Air France 777-200ER economy class. Image Credit: Air France

Now that we’ve covered the premium economy seats, let’s cover our last section: coach.

Here’s a quick summary table:

Aircraft	Seat Width	Seat Pitch	Configuration	Number of Seats
777-200ER	17″	32″	3-4-3 and 2-4-2	216
777-300ER (4-class)	17″	32″	3-4-3 and 2-4-2	206
787-9	17″	31″	3-3-3	225
A350-900	17″	31″	3-3-3	266

Air France 777-200ER (3-Class) Economy Class

On the 777-200ER, there are several good seats out of the 216 total in economy: row 23, 24C/J, and side rows 45 to 47 (which have 2 seats on each side).

Air France 777-200ER 3 Class Economy Seat Map — Air France 777-200ER economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

You’ll find the 777-200ER on the following routes:

Minneapolis (MSP) – Paris (CDG) on AF 673
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 9, 15, and 17
Pape’ete (PPT) – Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 77
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 85

Air France 777-300ER (4-Class) Economy Class

The next aircraft we’ll be discussing in economy is the 777-300ER 4-class aircraft.

The seat map looks like this:

Air France 777-300ER 4 Class Economy Seat Map — Air France 777-300ER 4-class economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

The best seats are 29C/J, side seats in rows 49 to 50, and seats 39B/C and 39J/K.

29C and 29J offer extra legroom due to a missing seat, so that’ll be excellent to stretch out your legs. Row 28 is not a preferential seat — although it’s in the bulkhead, a wall in front of your legs will restrict your legroom.

Side seats in rows 49 to 50 are ideal for couples traveling together since you’ll have a row to yourself.

Lastly, seats 39B/C and 39J/K are good because they’ve got tons of exit row space to stretch out.

The main disadvantages are that the seat width is reduced due to the inflight monitor being stored in the armrest, and the proximity to the galleys and lavatories making for a noisy background.

Find these seats on routes utilizing the 4-class 777-300ER:

Houston (IAH) – Paris (CDG)
Los Angeles (LAX) – Paris (CDG) on AF 65 and 69
New York (JFK) – Paris (CDG) on AF 7, 11, and 23
San Francisco (SFO) – Paris (CDG) on AF 83
Washington, D.C. (IAD) – Paris (CDG) on AF 55

Air France 787-9 Economy Class

The 787-9 Dreamliner offers our third-place economy class product. There is 1 inch less of seat pitch — 31 inches instead of 32 inches.

Also, the 3-3-3 layout can feel cramped at times. Here’s a look at the seat map:

Air France 787-9 economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

The best seats to reserve are 30B/C and 30H/J. These seats have the most legroom, thanks to the exit row. However, you might find the proximity to the lavatories a bit cumbersome.

Air France A350-900 Economy Class

Our last-place economy class product is on Air France’s A350-900. The A350-900 narrowly loses out to the 787-9 for 1 simple reason: a larger economy cabin.

The A350-900 has 266 seats in economy, while the 787-9 has around 225.

The seat map looks like this:

Air France A350-900 economy seat map. Image Credit: SeatGuru

As you can see, the best seats for solo travelers are 31A or 31L. Also, 16D/E/H will provide extra legroom for travelers. Row 30 seats also have enhanced legroom but are uncomfortably close to the lavatories.

Bottom Line: Overall, the best economy seats to book on Air France are the 777-200ER (3-class) and the 777-300ER (4-class).

Final Thoughts

Wow! We’ve talked about enough different seats to make just about anybody’s head spin. Here are the key takeaways:

The only plane equipped with a La Première first class product is the 777-300ER.
In business class, choose the 3-class 777-200ER or the 4-class 777-300ER. These reverse herringbone seats are the best and most private.
Take premium economy on the 787-9. The spacious seats, 2-3-2 configuration, and intimate cabin size make it a no-brainer.
For economy, fly on the 3-class 777-200ER or the 4-class 777-300ER. These seats have the best legroom, making for an improved coach experience.

We’ve gone over all the Air France routes to/from the U.S., and they can be quite complicated. Keep in mind that frequent, last-minute aircraft swaps can make or break your trip, so be on the lookout for those!

Overall, though, Air France’s predictability is decent, especially on flagship routes — so 90% of the time you’ll be alright!

Featured Image Credit: Air France

Frequently asked questions

What's the best way to book Air France La Première?

Unfortunately, you need to satisfy 2 requirements to book La Première with points and miles:

Flying Blue elite status (Silver is the minimum)
200,000 Flying Blue miles each way between the U.S. and Europe

So, the only way to book is when you're a Flying Blue elite member and use 200,000 miles.

Otherwise, you would be better off searching for cheaper cash flights, but it's still very expensive (thousands of dollars).

What's the best ways to book Air France business class?

Generally, the best ways to fly Air France in business class are by using Delta SkyMiles or Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles.

With Air France/KLM's variable pricing system, it will cost anywhere from 53,000 to 70,000 miles each way at the lowest level. However, if you land a Promo Reward, you can bring that cost down 25% to 50%!

With Delta, it'll cost 120,000 miles each way and you'll also get award access even before Air France!

What are the best ways to book Air France premium economy class?

Currently, one of the only ways to book Air France premium economy is with Air France/KLM Flying Blue miles.

Using its award calculator will help you calculate the exact cost of the lowest-level awards.

Generally, mileage costs range from 45,500 to 57,500 miles each way.

What's the best way to book Air France economy class?

Delta SkyMiles is a great option for economy awards.

Fuel surcharges aren't passed on, which will save you a lot of money. Awards on Air France metal cost 32,500 miles each way.

Air France is another option, but it passes on fuel surcharges, which can be counter-productive if your goal is to pay as little money as possible on your flights.

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46 comments

paul April 3, 2019

For LAX to CDG, I think you omitted 0069, which is a 777 with the new configuration in La Premiere (4 seat cabin, etc.). Same thing for 0072 coming back.

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- Stephen Au April 4, 2019
  
  Hey Paul!
  
  Thanks for reading. We’ve updated this article accordingly. We appreciate the feedback!
  
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Scott April 6, 2019

I’m flying from Houston to Paris on July 6. The website indicates this aircraft is the 777-300ER. I will likely fly economy unless I upgrade. SeatGuru indicates there are 4 versions of this aircraft. Do you know which version it is?

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- Erin Miller April 7, 2019
  
  Hi Scott, please be advised **we are not Air France** – we are Upgraded Points, a website publishing articles on points and miles as well as other travel related pieces.
  
  As such, we cannot confirm which version of your plane you are flying, especially since we do not know the flight number. You can try searching a site like Flight Stats to see if you can find any additional information, but again without your flight number we are unable to even get that far. If you cannot find the information there, the best option would be to call Air France’s customer service!
  
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- yang May 2, 2019
  
  I just flew this route on April 2019. It’s the new 1-2-1 version which is great. I was in the mini cabin in row 11, which was very quite and private
  
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n2bspld April 18, 2019

Plane types have changed from the post above, for example, I see a 777-300ER from MIA-CDG in October. Availability from Boston is completely missing from your “definitive’ guide and Detroit has a 787 now. Far from definitive.

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- Christine Krzyszton April 25, 2019
  
  Hi and thanks for your comment. Stephen has compiled a great deal of useful information here. And, as he mentions early on in the article, aircraft is going to be swapped out and changes made. We appreciate you reading and your suggestion.
  
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LN April 30, 2019

I see AF-038 (SFO to CDG) as an Airbus A380-800 on Flightaware, not a 777-300ER. Wrong info?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR83

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- Stephen Au May 4, 2019
  
  Hey LN,
  
  Thanks for reading. This is supposedly a temporary adjustment. Air France swapped out the 777-300ER with the A380-800 since April 12, 2019. However, this is a route that is normally operated by the 777-300ER.
  
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Dawn Lynch May 4, 2019

Lax to Cdg Just booked my first AF A380 economy flier 🤷🏼‍♀️ Hope I enjoy it and not regret sticking with Delta planes.

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- Stephen Au May 4, 2019
  
  Hey Dawn!
  
  Thanks for reading. Best of luck and we hope you enjoy your flight.
  
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Chad Z. October 9, 2019

Hello,

Thanks for the very informative article. I literally just booked a one way flight from CDG-MIA on Air France for June 2019. I was very surprised (in a bad way) to find that they are showing a seat map for a 2-3-2 business class on a 777-300… I’m hoping this might be temporary and we will get an equipment swap. Any idea if they are now flying this plane on the CDG-MIA route permanently?

Thanks!
Chad

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- Stephen Au October 9, 2019
  
  Hi Chad,
  
  Sorry to hear this. There’s a chance that they might switch it, but given how far in advance they set the schedule, it’s unlikely. Keep watching it and hoping for a swap!
  
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Anthony October 16, 2019

Looks like there may be a change for Seattle – just seeing 777-200 when looking at flights to Paris in December/January. A pleasant surprise and praying there is not an equipment swap. Thanks for taking the time to write this article!

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- Jarrod West October 16, 2019
  
  Thanks for the kind words, Anthony! We appreciate your readership!
  
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Stephanie October 26, 2019

What about the 787s? I just flew one of those from CDG to DTW and wonder how it compares.

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Rudy November 24, 2019

Hi there! Maybe you can clear this up. I’ve read on some reviews that in Premium Economy on AF’s A380 the first row seats (81A/B/K/L) do not have leg rests and therefore not very comfortable on a long-haul LAX to CDG flight. But then some reviews praise the leg rest! Which is it? Thank you!

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- Stephen Au November 26, 2019
  
  Hi Rudy,
  
  It all depends on how you feel about leg rests. As it is an exit row, there is nothing in front to mount a leg rest, so there’s no leg rest.
  
  However, the legroom you get is nearly unlimited, so you can definitely stretch out as much as you want.
  
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Kelly November 29, 2019

Thanks for the detailed information! I am looking at CLT-CDG in June and I seem to have a few options on AF, one through ATL and two through JFK. I am looking for La Premiere, paying $ since I have no status. The ATL flight and one of the JFK flights are on A380-800s. One of the JFK flights is on the 777. The cost is $3426 o/w through ATL and $10,441 o/w through JFK. I understand why the 777 flight is more expensive but I don’t understand why the ATL A380 and the JFK A380 fares are so different. Any thoughts?

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- Stephen Au November 29, 2019
  
  Hi Kelly,
  
  It all depends on revenue management. Simply put, flying from New York to Paris has a much higher demand due to business travelers going between the 2 hubs. Atlanta commands a much lower premium in cost for first class, due to the fact that New York is more of a financial hub than Atlanta. Thanks for reading.
  
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JP5000 December 3, 2019

Starting 3/29, the IAD-CDG route (AF 55) is being switched from the 777-300 to the A380. Found that out while trying to book in early April. UGH

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Chris Parker February 5, 2020

AF639 from IAH to CDG seems to be operated by an A330-200 and 777-300ER depending on the time of year. From ExpertFlyer i can see that from March 29, 2020 to October 25, 2020 its operated by a 777-300ER with business class in a 1-2-1 configuration.

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Gio July 31, 2020

Wonderful overview with very helpful tips! Really enjoyed photos of the actual Seats.
What about the A350s and 787s?

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- Stephen Au August 13, 2020
  
  Hi Gio!
  
  We are in the process of updating all this information. As you can imagine, there are going to be tons of changes due to COVID-19.
  
  Please stay tuned!
  
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John November 12, 2020

What about the A320 services from the US to France on AF? MIA-PTP/FDF/CAY. The MIA-CAY flight, direct on AF can be as long as 9:15 and yet the business class is horrific for a flight of that length!

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Andrew May 10, 2021

Flight #65 now is a 777-300ER (4 class). Very excited…Just booked LAX-CDG-DBV…rows 3,4,5 & 6 L!

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zoechow June 4, 2021

This is an amazing resource but really seems out of date: I think the A380 is retired, maybe the a340 too? And there are the new A350 and 787s, I think? Any chance of an update?

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- Jarrod West June 6, 2021
  
  Hi Zoechow,
  
  You are correct on all fronts. We are currently in the process of performing a full update on this piece. Thanks for reading!
  
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Sara July 5, 2021

It shows the A380 for flight 65 LAX to CDG, however, it seems that it’s now a 777-300 plane.
Is that accurate and how does this new product compare to flight 69 with the 777-200 product? Thanks in advance!

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- Jarrod West July 7, 2021
  
  Hi Sara,
  
  That is correct that the route has been replaced by the 777-300. We are currently in the process of updating all of our direct route guide articles with the most up to date aircraft information so please bear with us!
  
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Lisa H November 26, 2021

Hi! Can anyone help me with which plane has more under-seat space in economy between Delta A330 and Air France 777-300ER for pets? I’m flying from New York to Paris in February and want to choose the larger option if possible. I don’t think I can fly Comfort+ but I will if I can. The reservation agents I’ve spoken to so far have been little help with under-seat dimensions for me to compare the two. Thank you to anyone who can help!

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- Stephen Au November 30, 2021
  
  The Air France 777-300ER has 32 inches of seat pitch (legroom), while the A330 has around 31 inches of seat pitch. From that standpoint, it seems like the Air France 777-300ER is the winner here. However, your question is a bit specific and these 2 aircraft are probably extremely close in terms of under-seat space.
  
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Scott Carlton February 9, 2022

Currently trying to book La Premiere seats in June from SFO – ATH. AF website lets me choose La Premiere fares, but then once I get past the passenger info section, it automatically reduces everything to the lowest category of business-class fare and won’t even let me choose a seat. Have you happened to notice this? Same thing happened to me last fall when I tried booking a business trip on AF. Is this because they haven’t yet decided which configuration of 777-300 to use for the SFO route this far in advance? Or just its buggy website? Really getting frustrated with AF. I used to be a loyal AF passenger but am now moving over to Lufthansa, which has better partner airlines anyway.

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- Stephen Au February 15, 2022
  
  Hi Scott,
  
  Are you trying to book a paid La Premiere seat or a seat with points? If you’re trying to book with points, it’s helpful to know that you can’t book La Premiere seats with points unless you have Flying Blue Elite status and a bunch of points. If you’re looking to book a paid flight on La Premiere, please send me an email at [email protected] with some extra details, and I’ll try to help you figure this out.
  
  Thank you.
  
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Alex February 20, 2022

Does anyone know why the Air France seat map shows X unavailable seats?

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Adventure NML May 1, 2022

This is super helpful! Thank you for this post!!

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Flying Blu August 22, 2022

Which biz class seats would you recommend in the 777-200ER that doesn’t have the additional mini cabin of 4 rows? A flight I am looking at (CDG-SFO) only shows rows 1-7 available.

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- Jarrod West August 24, 2022
  
  Hello,
  
  For solo travelers, I would opt for the A or L seats on the config, but would avoid row 1 or row 7 if you prefer not to be near the galley.
  
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Alex October 25, 2022

Taking your advice and choosing 12L on both legs of CDG-SEA flights on 777-200ER! Hoping not to be disappointed! Quiet and least foot traffic is key!

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Chris January 18, 2023

Hi guys,

Hoping you can shed some light on this situation. Booked the CDG>DEN direct for the end of my honeymoon and was so excited that it was on the 787 (confirmed in our confirmation email). We booked premium economy (which after looking at some reviews, less than excited about the “pod” style seats, but my 6’2″ self will be glad to be in a slightly bigger seat for 10 hours). The other day, I was looking to see if prices had dropped at all and noticed that all the CDG>DEN flights are now on the 777-200. The seats don’t change much. Looking at your article, looks like the 787 PE seats have slightly more pitch. Given it’s a daytime flight, not a huge deal. But have you heard any reason for the change, and is there likely an equipment change back? We’re flying in mid June.

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Jim March 30, 2023

I booked business class via DL using miles. Outbound DL put us on AF0377 to CDG via DTW. Originally it was a 787-9 but has been changed to a 777-200 with 7 row business configuration. DL has advised that it will have AF’s new business class seat but I can’t find anything that the 777-200ER will have the new seat in 2023. Do you have any insight?

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- Jarrod West April 5, 2023
  
  Hi Jim,
  
  We cannot say for sure whether or not they’ll have upgraded the cabin by your flight. But if Delta said it would then I’d say that is a good sign!
  
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Denise Nutton April 6, 2023

Hello looking to book the LAX>CDG on 777-300 AF0065 and my husband just had knee surgery and is 6’3 and will need a wide seat as well, any recommendations on best seats to book would be appreciated.

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- Jarrod West April 10, 2023
  
  Hi Denise,
  
  I would recommend any of the seats that offer additional legroom, you can view that on the seat map here.
  
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Jason April 26, 2023

Will the 777-200’s get the “new” business class seats?

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- Jarrod West April 26, 2023
  
  Hi Jason,
  
  Air France hasn’t annouced plans for that at the moment.
  
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